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Broadcastvision AXS FMT Canadian certification in question

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Broadcastvision AXS FMT Canadian certification in question

Was looking up some certifications on IC website and when I searched the IC number for the Broadcastvision I got not found.

But the older models Waio/Cardio theater have different numbers and are there with all the info., date etc.

Contacted the certification bureau and spoke to an officer and she couldn't locate it either and they are looking into this for me. Will have an answer next week.

For this reason I purchased on of the Cardio Theater/Waio units currently on Ebay that are new other, just not in original packing and will never use the broadcastvision till I find out what's the deal with the certification.

Need one of these to have a back up to the Decade MS-100 as the Decade needs 15-20V AC power and won't work on DC.

Tim wouldn't be able to test the MS-100 in the field outside like the others because you can't run it on a battery.

If this is actually a bogus certification Number IC will contact the company to find out what gives. Maybe I opened up a can of worms here! I also sent a picture of the transmitter and the bottom label. I don't think to much of something stated that's not true especially when that's what we have to go by.

Wii keep you posted as to the what I find out.

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

Follow up...

The Broadcastvision AXS-FMT(current model) is NOT LEGAL here(Canada)!

They don't have the certification number on the label in their database with test results and are looking into this and will be contacting the company but because of a privacy act what they are doing or not doing and the details is confidential.

But the predecessors of these, Waio and Cardio Theater(same transmitter different brand name) are good and have legit. IC certification numbers. They were certified in 2007 when amendment 7 of RSS-210 was in effect to allow 100uV/M@30 meters. BVE Entertainment took over from Waio and revised the model to the current one but has a non certification number.

Got the one I purchased on Ebay(Cardio Theater) and is close in sound quality and range as the Decade MS-100.

So it's to bad about this company's false certifications as these are good transmitters made in USA.

My earlier tests of Broadcastvision

I tested the Broadcast Vision transmitter a couple years ago.  It was the AXS-FMTXD model.  I didn't check for Canada compliance but it was well over 100 times the legal limit for use in the USA, which I believe also puts it well over the Canadian limits as well.   Not sure off hand what the "XD" means on this model as compared to the one you reference. 

Not only was it over the limit but the included power supply generated a lot of hum.

For those interested the test report is at:

 

http://www.ironrangecountry.com/broadcastvisiontest.pdf

 

As for the MS-100, the only thing preventing me from testing it is it's cost. I insist on testing transmitters purchased at retail the same way a user would obtain one, rather than getting one gratis from a manufacturer, who may insure I get one "tweaked" to pass any testing. 

I do have AC power available for field use that I use to run test equipment when doing performance proofs, NRSC compliance testing, AM directional pattern compliance, etc when working on full power stations.  I have both battery powered portable AC and gas generators, all with very well filtered and regulated AC power.

Perhaps this spring I'll test the MS-100.  It has a reputation of being a great unit.  Presently my test field is under 3 feet of snow and the outside temp this morning is -19 below zero!

TIB

Reply to Timinbovey

Has it been a couple of years already since you did these tests? Didn't think time went THAT fast!

On the unit you tested the IC certification number is the same as the one that seems to be not in Industry Canada's records so I won't use. They are looking into this.

The Decade MS-100 is power adjustable with a trimmer and can be set for the correct output and the max power is 1 milliwatt with the telescoping antenna. They adjust it with the same meter that you use(so I've been told) before it's sent out depending where it's going.

It is certified for part 15, BETS-1,  RSS-210, and RSS-123.

The only drawback is it needs anywhere from around 15-20 VAC not DC and can't be run on a battery and A/C to A/C adaptors are hard to find.

The Canadian limit is 100uV/M@30 meters.

As for the adaptors being lousey yes I have ones that are better filtered to use(it's trial and error) and with a ferrite on the cord there's no hum.

But even with an AC power supply like the one the Decade uses where the filtering is on board the unit a ferrite is atill needed to eliminate some hum.

 

 

Certifications

I've noticed when digging around the FCC website looking for certification info for other Part 15 FM transmitters often a certification given to a specific transmitter was used on other, much later transmitters by the same company. Even though they were dramitically different transmitters.  A certification applies to that one specific unit only. The paperwork for the certification for the Whole House 3.0 was a complete mess and the list of things that didn't jive was pretty amazing. I don't have the specifics in front of me now, but if you work through the paperwork from the FCC you'll see certification denied several times for one reason or another, and the replies from the manufacturer (Not "Whole House" but some Chinese name) stated that items had already been corrected, controls changed, features changed, modified or removed, etc and every single thing the FCC told them was wrong was STILL wrong in the units I purchased (I tested several). 

The certification process, at least in the USA has a LOT of "slop" in it. Clearly you can supply a unit for testing that meets the rules, then slap that number on units for sale that do NOT meet the rules. Clearly, when a disqualifying item comes up a manufacturer can simply say "we fixed that" and that's it.  Of course you all probably know the FCC does ZERO testing for certification.  This is all done by outside labs all over the world. The paperwork is submitted, the certification number is given. It's not difficult for a manufacturer to get a shiny new certification number for something that violates several specifics of the Part 15 certification process.  Yet the END USER (us) is still responsible and held accountable if the device they're using (certified or not) violates the rules.

TIB

On the one in question

The one in question....the Broadcastvision, the Canadian certification number didn't turn up ANYTHING! It's like a bogus number.

Industry Canada doesn't have all the details you see on the FCC website.

So using another number for another version of the transmitter wasn't the case here.

Strange that the end user is held responsible when the company can do all this shady stuff behind the scenes.

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